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> > INTERVIEW WITH TWO IRANIAN GAYS BY ARSHAM PARSI
Forbidden Homosexuality In Iran
 

Arsham Parsi: Could you please introduce yourselves?

Pooya: I am Pooya, 26 years old and I am homosexual.

Soroosh: I am Soroosh, 23 years old, and also homosexual. I have been in Turkey for 6 months.

AP: How do you explain the life of a gay man in Iran?

Pooya: A gay man has no life in Iran at all to be explained. Life is meaningless for him and he receives no acceptance for himself and his lifestyle. He has lots of problems involving his family, his society, the government, etc. I have a master’s degree, but I was not accepted even as a secretary in Iran as I was different from others. They didn’t say directly that it was because I am gay but they didn’t offer me any job and their reason was clearly implied. My family didn’t understand me. People made fun of me and they tormented me in such a way that I didn’t dare go out of my home. There is no place for a gay person in Iran as the culture does not accept the presence of homosexuality. A homosexual is not allowed to talk about himself and everyone looks at him in a different way. They call him a faggot, or they call him feminine. 

AP: Whenever I talk to a gay man, I deal with the term “feminine”. Every gay man becomes unhappy of this label and they take it as a humiliation. From your point of view, who is feminine and why is this word used? 

Pooya: People used to call me feminine in any gathering. Everybody laughed at me and so this word was hateful for me. It was used to humiliate me. That’s why every gay man flees from this word.

Soroosh: Feminine was a label that I had to carry since my childhood. This word was not unfamiliar to me as I heard it everywhere – in my family, at school, everywhere in society. They called us feminine so often that we became used to it. Sometimes I really felt that I was feminine and this was my name.

This word is very insulting in our society and any man hearing it becomes offended. My father and my brother became so upset when others called me feminine. They were ashamed.

 

AP: In your view, what should be done in a society where wearing vibrant colors or colognes are abnormal? 

Soroosh: I believe one person cannot change this culture. It will take a long time. Public awareness and education should be implemented to tackle this issue. 

Pooya: People must be made aware that such people do exist, they have the right to live like others and they should be accepted as they are. Wearing a T-shirt or a specific color does not represent the personality. We have to ask them to listen to us and talk to us about our tastes. They should not assume things and make fun of a person whose reality they know nothing about. 

AP: Do your families know anything about your sexual orientation? 

Pooya: My family does not. But they have recognized some things and are suspicious. They know nothing about homosexuals etc. and believe that every man should marry a woman and have kids. They do not know that such things exist. That is why I believe that people should be informed. If I had a comfortable life, I would have never gotten out of Iran and come to live here, under the conditions you are now witnessing. 

Soroosh: Every one has the right to choose his/her own lifestyle. When a person is not hurting me with their lifestyle choices, their private life should not be a problem for me; I have no right to criticize them.  Our people are so curious to know why we are like this. When they find out, they deny it.

I could never talk about who I am in Iran. This matter has obsessed me in a way that I want to cry out everywhere ‘I am a homosexual and I have the right to live’. A homosexual person should have the freedom to go to work, study, marry and have kids. 

AP: Please describe your daily life in Iran.

Soroosh: I was not the real Soroosh in Iran. I was someone who wore a mask on his face. I was forced to isolate myself and feel lonely so no one would notice my problems and differences. If anyone had become aware, they would have raped, harassed, or made fun of me. They tortured us with the aim of helping us! For example they said: “You will get fixed. Have sex with a girl in order to change your taste.” They forced us to do many things which were unjust. When they discovered that these pressures did not work, they used other ways. They hit, insulted or raped us. All our moments in Iran were full of stress and torture. Although I have many problems here, it is still better than Iran. People in this city may be much worse than people in Iran, but at least my family is not present here to restrict or hit me for any small issue like the color of my clothes or the way I talking. At least I am not forced to play a role anymore. I am my true self.  

AP: How is your condition in Turkey? 

Pooya: Our condition is not better than Iran. Five of us sleep in one room. Poor financial conditions make life very difficult. The sanitation condition is horrible. One of our friends has got a dermatological problem and his body has blistered all over. Our heads itch as there is no clean bathroom. Another friend has got sciatica due to the present pressures and has not able to walk for two months. My toe nails have turned black due to calcium deficiency.

Since the expenses for drugs and medical treatment are so high, we are forced to take old medicine or what is sent to us from Iran. 

Soroosh: We even do not have safety. They threatened us by gun a while ago and told us: “We, Turks, do not accept you and can kill you simply if we wish. We are Muslims and do not accept these issues.” We even have problems with police and they make fun of us too.

Pooya:  We even have problems with groceries. Once I was coming out of a grocery store, the security men stopped me and began to check my body. They intended to molest me. They touched my hips. What could I hide there?! Was there any other intention than molesting me?! I am so sad that I am humiliated even here.

Soroosh: The condition is so bad. We can hardly warm our houses during winter.

Our things were about to burn several times as we were forced to warm the house by coal and wood and sleep the whole night while wearing our jackets. 

AP: How do your overcome your living expenses? 

We have no support from anywhere. Even after UN assistance and attending a financial interview, they pay us around $100 monthly while we must pay at least $200 for renting a home. We are deep into trouble but we have to be patient and suffer everything. We can not do anything. We have to be patient. 

Nowadays in western countries, it is common for couples to live together and share a life without officially marrying. It is interesting to know why homosexuals with relations traditionally like this are looking for marriage. 

Pooya: I am not talking about homosexuals in the west. In Iran even two men are not allowed to live in one house and should explain it to many people.

They don’t rent home to singles and etc. Therefore living with the sexual partner is not possible and the couples are forced to have only phone calls or distant relations. 

Soroosh: I like to marry a man officially and I want a permanent relation from my marriage. Marriage is the minimum peace in life. I know that divorce also exists but for me equality is so important. I should have the same rights that a heterosexual does - the right to marry and establish a family. It is not right to claim that marriage is only exclusive to heterosexuals. Some heterosexuals do not like to marry and some do. In general, marriage should not be a right solely for heterosexuals but for all humans. We can either use this right or not. Same sex marriage is not a must, but it is our right. 

Pooya: I am still not sure if I want to get married or not, but I am sure that I don’t want to be played by others. I want to dedicate my love solely to one person and I want him to do the same. I want a healthy and peaceful life. 

Soroosh:  One of the reasons for this issue is that we gays have always been played and abused. At the beginning of any acquaintance, the person we are with says they are in love and will commit forever. However after they abuse us, they bring excuses and that is all. Unfortunately there are lots of these abusers in Iran. They have difficulties in bonding with girls so they are forced to do it with boys. They are not homosexuals but they have sex with the same gender due to their conditions. Due to all these failures, I want to get married and become secure. 

AP: Dear Soroosh, how did your professor rape you? 

Soroosh: My university professor closed the door and raped me. I could not do any thing. He should have confirmed my final thesis. When I wanted to get out of his office, he put his hand on the door and said: “I like you and want to have sex with you.” He forced me to have sex with him. I didn’t want it; he threatened that he wouldn’t let me graduate. I could neither shout nor ask for help. I could not tell anyone as it would cause me problems. Everybody would say I was lying and no one would doubt him. He was both a heterosexual man and a university professor. I had to keep quiet for my reputation. 

AP: What is the main social problem for homosexuals? 

Pooya:  Due to these ideas, most of the times they pressure homosexuals to do wrong things that have severe consequences. Like marriage to a girl which causes misery for the two sides. They force a couple to marry and a poor homosexual does this when he has no other option. Most of the time, this matter results in divorce and no body recognizes the cause - forcing a homosexual guy to get married.  One of my homosexual friends was forced to marry. I asked him how he was satisfied. He said that he fantasized his wife as a guy during sex! I really got sad. He was forced to get married due to family pressures. I know lots of gays who married like this and all have problems. 

Soroosh: Many gays commit suicide to avoid such fates. However, those who get married are in a permanent suicide. They are tortured when they see their children as they have betrayed some human beings by their silence. They might claim that they have a good life but what they are suffering is misery.

Nowadays there is an organization for everything like women, victims, addicted people, or runaways. But the only organization that works for homosexuals is coroner which either certifies a rape act or a burial permission. 

AP: Everyone likes to help but no one knows how. What is your plan? 

Soroosh: If my financial condition becomes well, I will definitely give part of my income to organizations like yours which are really working. I’ve know your organization since a long time ago and I know you helped many of us. I have read your magazine and I have learnt quite a lot.

Pooya:  I am ready to do any help. I am even ready to appear in the media.

Soroosh: To achieve a goal, you need to make sacrifices. If we are looking for freedom we have to do lots of things and overcome our fears. I am willing to suffer on this arduous road for the sake of others, so they may be able to walk the next steps. Especially those who get out of Iran should not forget the others left behind. They should not think now that they’re safe they can forget about the past. What is happening to those who are still under pressure? We all should become united for the sake of our generation and the next generation.

Pooya: We should never forget that a baby who might be gay could be born by tomorrow. Should s/he suffer all the problems from scratch?!

 
This interview was
translated by Ramin. For full text, go to The Iranian Queer Organization website.

Iranian Queer Organization – IRQO

Formerly Persian Gay & Lesbian Organization – PGLO www.irqo.net
info@irqo.net
001-416-548-4171




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